i spoke with governor chris christie on "meet the press" and he said come thursday morning the narrative will be completely different after the first debate. how so? what are you looking for tonight? >> first off, having gone through debates in the primary, they are a big deal, and it's going to be a big moment tonight somewhere, and i think the narrative will change. what it will change to, i don't know, but i think the potential for governor romney to do well tonight i think is actually pretty good. i think expectations are very low. president obama is a much more dynamic speaker. i'm not dissing mitt romney. president obama, that's his strength, and i think the expectations are very high for him. i can tell you, going up against mitt romney is not a fun thing. he's -- he has the facts. he drills you. he stays, he's tenacious, and that's the difference between four years ago and this time. john mccain was very passive. let the president, candidate obama do whatever he wants to do. mitt romney will not do that, and here's the strength tonight. >> here's the challenge. on the one hand mi